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Journal Entry: Sun Apr 25, 2010, 6:19 PM


Hello and welcome to this nightly rant,

I've let you all complain in my poll a few days ago, now it's my turn to give the love back :lol:.


People, if you can't handle criticism on your photos disable your comments.

I've had it happen a few times where I commented on a photo saying a few words about how they can improve on it. And instead of taking that advice they just went apeshit on me because they thought their work was the best out there apparently.

I believe this is a community where we can and are helping each other to improve on doing what we love. I know a lot of people are happy with a comment saying "Nice" "Beautiful" or just a single emoticon.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate those comments as well. But there is nothing like a comment that could lead me evolve in photography.

If you just want comments that say nice lovely beautiful things about it, I'd suggest you disable your comments and just receive favs or get from your pink fluffy cloud in the sky and get your ass into reality. Because there is always room for improvement.

If you are aspiring please accept constructive criticism and use it to evolve!

Thank you for listening to my nightly rant, good night!

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:iconxemnasthehedgehog:
xemnasthehedgehog Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
100% true if you ask me! Heh, usually dont get much comments and actually i never had any critics on my work so yeah... for me its not really useful because i want to improve :p ah well i dont say that i dont like the 'i like it!' comments
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mad57 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2010
I'd like to have comments, i'm never angry about criticism (it's the only way to improve skills, and i think that this community is created to serve this aim).

ZEN ATTITUDE. :meditate:
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Galaxygirl300 Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2010
I know...
I used to give out good constructive criticism..(that’s how I viewed it) but then people started to block me! and call me and my art names.. Just because I made them “angry/hurt” something like that.

Like allot of ladies im sensitive, so I got this “lock” from giving out constructive criticism. Apparently people could not handle it..

If you can give out nice comments when you fancy something, why cant one give out comments when you don’t fancy it? Specially when you give reasons.
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Kokopellishuman Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2010
I totally agree with everything you just said. There is always room for constructive criticism
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jodipheonix Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2010   General Artist
I couldn't agree more.

the way I see it is .. it takes balls to show off your art.
when people of the world view your art because you so boldly
display it for them to see , it leaves you open to criticism
there are (in my opinion) 3 forms of criticism:
1: Constructive criticism
2: Negative criticism
3: Positive criticism
if you can't cope with being criticized , and hearing peoples
opinions ( we all have them ) then you just shouldn't display
your works for the world to see

( I must sound totally anal , but it's the truth and my opinion )
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REMScavenger Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010
I concur~!! I love a good critic, but one rarely posts such a thing on my work. I wish they did, because I know that I definitely have a WORLD of improvement to explore!
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RlySrh Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010  Student Photographer
I like constructive criticism but I think if you're willing to point out the flaws on someone's work it'd be rude not to also say something good about it. For example a comment saying something like "I like the lighting in this photo but it'd be better if you made that person more in focus" is nice and constructive. But a comment saying "That person should be more in focus" just seems kind of like picking faults.
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Galaxygirl300 Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2010
Good ponint :bounce:
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Lou-in-Canada Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010   Traditional Artist
absolutely right you are! Don`t know how people dont want criticism.. it`s the only way to learn.. the road to perfection, right ;)

here here, Dynnad.. pls have at it:, I need some telling here! ;P
how to avoid this problem:
[link]


Namecalling shouldn't happen on DA, I woulda thought most people in this community would've outgrown that kind of childish behaviour

Anyways, here's a good article about critiquing that I liked, and learnt a lot from:

HOw to critique a photograph by Kat423: [link]
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Ann-NL Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010  Student Photographer
I rather receive critical comments with tips for improvement, give me those comments in stead of just one single word like nice or something :)
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Nijn88 Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Nice journal xD
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Dingelientje-stock Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010
I agree with you in some way.
Because when someone says : WOW This sucks!
Is not really feedback.
If you give a good feedback and you tell people what they can change for the next time.
than i see no problem.
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rockgem Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
i don't mind comments that are constructive though i opt out of the critique option as most the time i simply got a piece of work ripped to shreds with nothing positive said at all.
last i checked the critique system was there to encourage not discourage completely as it very near did ( i nearly abandoned all my written works)
comments are there to help people learn you don't learn much from 'nice' or 'wow' but there are a lot of people round here that need to understand the delicate art of turning a negative into a positive point - and even more people round here who need to learn to accept that!
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Colonel-Herro Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010   Photographer
You're kidding? sigh. Lol, I've joined so many critique groups, and put my name forward for every opportunity of critique. I even said I'd rather a comment to a fav on my profile, and so far, I think its actually helped. I've started to see common mistakes I make for all my shots, and try and get rid of them. I'm grateful for any commen, tbh :D
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fudaryli Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010  Professional General Artist
haha im kidding i'm totally agree with you, in every word you wrote, perhaps i don't write a lot in here but you know that i'm always "listening to you" or colaborate with a short smile or an stupid comment about giraffes. i don't really have much time but i'm always keep an eye on you and your work

so, lets ride a giraffe to the sky together and leave this mortals with their llamas!!!
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fudaryli Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010  Professional General Artist
i give you this for your journal :)
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sarahlovesu Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
hhmmm, i agree. i don't see why people get mad about constructive criticism *raised eyebrow* ....luckily it's not happened to me :D i actually like to receive tips and stuff even if it shows that my photo wasn't all that good
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Teru-Shinju Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
hmmm... for me, I realize my photograph is still crap, so I just accept it if people complain about it.

Still, I kept them in DA to promote them, not my photographs, but them, the objects.
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JPtHart Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Student Photographer
I agree with you. But, when someone doesn't request critics or ask for it in the artist's comment, I don't give it. just because some people can't handle it.
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the-reaper Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
Wisdom.
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Xinikk-14 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -Albert Einstein

I love this statement! So many people need to realize this. Nothing you do will every be perfect. And, personally, to receive some concrit from an artist as good as you, I'd be extremely grateful you're even willing to look at it! :nod:
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4wings Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
I totally agree. I'm expecting some critique from you, because I can see you're a veteran in this matter and I just want my works to be criticized, not emoticoned or ass-kissed. Please do so my friend, when the time wil let you, and tell me where I am wrong or right, what you like or dislike about my work. I'll be honoured.
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WolfsPoet Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010   Photographer
It's good that you give constructive criticism. :3
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ParamoreBitchx Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010   Photographer
Totally agree! :XD:
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XxRevolutionaryxX Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:rofl: this journal is an EXCELLENT combination of words that definitely sets the bar, lmao
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StephanieLeonheart Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
I agree.

I'm usually a person that accepts critizisms, but it's gonna kill me though. Maybe I'm just too sensitive...
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Sabrawing Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
I've never thought my pictures and stuff was THE SHIT. lol (excuse the language)
there IS always room to improve, otherwise, this world would be boring as hell. :P
Just sayin.
And then I have those really good photographers like you to look up to. :D
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assassin4 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Seriously, comments like that are supposed to help you to improve. Unless you're saying something like "this sucks, a monkey could do this 10 times better than you", these people should get the stick out of their ass and learn to listen and improve. It's called "constructive criticism", and every great artist has received it, and they became great because they listened to it instead of bitching about it. Basically, I agree with you 100%
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tleach0608 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Wow...you know I was just in a situation like that two days ago with someone and it has been bothering me. Someone submitted their work to a group that has a medium level of quality expected and it was rejected and she asked why. I gave some constructive words on it and even told her that others in her "series" were more successful in what she wanted to achieve.

She fired back still somewhat polite but arrogantly disdainful that I was hung up on focus--when that wasn't even anything considered in the overall reason for the rejection and I had made clear. She obviously couldn't take constructive criticism and almost belittled me for daring to have a contrary artistic opinion on her work.

People--if you can't take something more than the gushing, nonsensical approval of your work, disable comments--otherwise take those opinions expressed to help grow and learn.
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Dynnnad Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
That's coincidental :P.

But I know how you feel, you try to help people and they just give you shit for it.

Sometimes it even results in name calling which just shows how weak and immature they are.

Thanks for responding
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du-la Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
:clap:
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Dynnnad Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
Just had to let it out hehe :D

Thanks for the response :)
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du-la Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
It' great when we can open ut ;-)
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DutchMacPhisto Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
Amen brother in underwear!

It's great to get positive feedback, but negative (only when it's relevant for the picture) is even beter so you can improve more and more.

If you can handle that: disable it, or get lost.
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Dynnnad Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
Glad you agree :D
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DutchMacPhisto Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
can't
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Dani-the-Naiad Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
:w00t: to that! I know sometimes things can be hard to hear. Don't let people get to you when they overreact too much to you.
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Dynnnad Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
I just don't get how people get so delusional about their work, and it's been a while since I ranted about something so now I had an excuse hehe :D

:w00t:
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Dani-the-Naiad Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
:nod: yeah - they're just oversensitive is all. sometimes it's because of ignorance, other times they just don't like the suggestion... but i wouldn't let it get to you too much. :shrug: perhaps at some point they'll grow up a little. :)
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Dynnnad Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
Yeah I agree with you :)

Don't worry, when I wake up tomorrow all my anger will be gone :P
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Dani-the-Naiad Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
:D awe, it's ok. you can be angry for a while... no worries :giggle:
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